If any of you had a Tubal Ligation and have had any health problems afterward, you can contact me, Torrie, at (503) or firstname.lastname@example.org
There is a doctor I recommend who can help you get the surgery you need and get you well. I have a personal experience with this syndrome. Many doctors will not listen to you, sending you to a psychologist for depression. Many doctors will give you hormones, which will help, but will only treat the symptoms and not the cause. Tubal ligation can lead to early menopause and eventual hysterectomy, with many agonizing symptoms along the way. For most, the least that occurs is very unpleasant symptoms that they did not have prior to the tubal ligation (see the list of symptoms below). Oddly, PTS is recognized by the American College of Obsetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) and their 40,000+ members, but they have a policy not to disclose it to women. There is a campaign to change legislation and to pass an informed consent statute to advise women of all the dangers and risks tubal ligation can cause. In the meantime, endless numbers of women nationwide are getting tubal ligations and suffering great health consequences. Why don't women and doctors know about the horrible results of sterilization? My theory is that most women who have tubal ligations regret it and want to have more children; So they get a reversal, and the symptoms they had (or didn't even know they had), go away. When I spent several months contacting 30+ doctors across the U.S., they were booked out for reversals anywhere from 2 to 6 months. So, I reached the conclusion that a majority of tubal ligations are reversed.
Do not go to just any doctor. Just because someone uses the title Dr. or M.D., it does not mean the have a current medical license. Do not go to Ingles Hospital in Tijuana, Mexico where you are charged $8,500 for the hospital fee, then additional surgery fees, making the total over $20,000 and sometimes up to $30,000! The so-called Dr. "selling" this surgery has no valid medical license, as it was revoked by The California Medical Board, with subsequent revocations in New York and Hawaii, based on many various proven charges of fraud and malpractice. Do not go to anyone claiming to be the only one who knows about this surgery and the only one who can repair you and get you well. I have proof it is at least partially a scam and I assure you that you do not need to pay that high amount to get well. Personally, I do not believe in the theory of ovarian isolation, rather, I believe that when a tubal ligation is done, it disrupts a normal bodily function. This will result in symptoms. For some, it is minimal or they don't notice them. For a majority of women, they experience many symptoms like heavy periods, cramps and female problems. Some experience menopause. Some women have a wide range of horrible symptoms and many times tubal reversal corrects them so they can live a normal life again. If you are already experiencing female problem such as endometriosis, fibroids, adhesions, ect..., the doctor can fix many such problems during the reversal. Also, I have information on the following doctors: Dr. Vicki Hufnagel, Dr. Richard Levin, Dr. Gary Berger and Dr. William Greene. If you need it, you can email me.
WHAT IS POST TUBAL LIGATION SYNDROME?
Post tubal ligation syndrome (PTLS or PTS) is an an iatrogenesis condition meaning doctor-caused or doctor produced. Many women suffer post tubal ligation syndrome after having a tubal ligation.
Below is a list of symptoms that are associated with post tubal ligation syndrome.
Post tubal ligation syndrome is often the result of a rapid decline of estrogen/progesterone hormone levels caused by the blood supply being damaged to the ovaries during the TL surgery. Depending on the damage to the veins and capillaries, blood volume to the ovaries may slightly decrease or can be eliminated completely which is called isolated ovarian syndrome (common with hysterectomy operations). Many of the symptoms of PTS are associated with menopause, hormone shock, or of having an estrogen/progesterone imbalance.
Other symptoms, such has heavy painful periods may be caused by a hormonal imbalance, could be caused by adenomyosis (bought on by uterus muscle and tissue being damaged, effected by the TL surgery impairing the blood supply to areas of that organ/muscle) or a combination of both. Pain also can be caused by retro bleeding backing into the sealed fallopian tubes.
Other theories of PTS and the hormonal imbalance that results after a TL is that target or receptor cells that are important in the relay of hormonal messages are damaged, destroyed, and or removed during the TL surgery. These receptor cells act like a telephone, sending messages to the brain. These target/receptor cells are located within the fallopian tube.
With this in mind, it's possible for a woman to have both her ovaries still functioning to some degree (if blood supply was not damaged), have no major problems with her uterus (again if blood supply was not damaged to that organ), and still be experiencing PTS from a hormonal imbalance caused by change in her hormonal message relay system due to receptor cells being removed.
The only way to find out for sure if you have a hormonal imbalance or are menopausal is to be properly hormone tested.
Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome (PTLS) aka PTS is linked with:
Severe Hormone Imbalance
Ovarian Isolation (Post Hysterectomy, Post Tubal Ligation)
Increased Risk of Heart Disease
Bone Loss and Osteoporosis
Dysfunctional Uterine Bleeding (DUB)
Severe Pelvic Adhesions
Misplacement of Female Organs
Decreased Lactating Ability
SYMPTOMS OF POST TUBAL SYNDROME
1. Eptopic pregnancy or pregnancy (well known risk of tubals)
2. Hot flashes, flushes, night sweats and/or cold flashes,
clammy feeling, chills
3. Bouts of rapid heart beat
5. Mood swings, sudden tears
6. Trouble sleeping through the night (with or without night sweats)
7. Irregular periods; shorter, lighter periods; heavier periods, flooding;
phantom periods, shorter cycles, longer cycles
8. Loss of libido
9. Dry vagina
10. Itchy vagina-at time raw like, can radiated from whole area, with
absence of yeast infections.
11. Color change in vaginal area. (color gets darker -darker red to purple)
12. Crashing fatigue - Chronic Fatigue
13. Anxiety, feeling ill at ease
14. Feelings of dread, apprehension, doom
15. Difficulty concentrating, disorientation, mental confusion
16. Disturbing memory lapses
17. Incontinence, especially upon sneezing, laughing; urge incontinence
18. Prolapse of uterus do to rapid decrease in estrogen levels.
19. Itchy, crawly skin
20. Aching, sore joints, muscles and tendons
21. Increased tension in muscles
22. Breast tenderness
23. Decrease in breast mass
24. Headache change: increase or decrease
25. Gastrointestinal distress, indigestion, flatulence, gas pain, nausea
Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS)
26. Sudden bouts of bloat
28. Exacerbation of existing conditions
29. Allergies developing or increasing - (Chronic sinusitis).
30 Nasal infections-necessitating antibiotics
31. Weight gain
32. Hair loss or thinning, head, pubic, or whole body; increase in facial hair
33. Dizziness, light-headedness, episodes of loss of balance
34. Changes in body odor
35. Electric shock or stabbing sensation under the skin.
36. Tingling in the extremities,
37. Gum problems, increased bleeding
38. Burning tongue, burning roof of mouth, bad taste in mouth, change in
39. Osteoporosis (after several years )
40. Changes in fingernails: softer, crack or break easier
41. Stabbing pains in pelvic area at time of ovulation
42. Pelvic Pain
43. Development of Adenomyosis
44. Development of Ovarian/Tubal Cysts
45. Decreased Lactation Ability
There are things that need repaired inside. When tubal ligation is performed, messages the brain sends to the reproductive system are disrupted and the body begins to function abnormally. Scar tissue and thick adhesions that can form later, as well. Retrograde bleeding into the uterus can occur. Thus, the uterus becomes larger and scar tissue is created, stretching the ligaments that hold it in place. Then, endometrial cells can invade the uterus, creating adenomysis (edometriosis of the uterus). The uterus can become more than twice it's normal size, with the adenomyomas penetrating deep into the uterine walls. Subsequently, submucosal tumors can form. When a patient has adenomyosis, the doctors normally recommend hysterectomy; But, most of the time, surgery can restore the body to as close a pre-tubal ligation state as possible.
The first step in curtailing your symptoms and avoiding future damage is to get a Tubal Reversal. Many claim to be knowledgeable about Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome and repairing damage, but through my research, I found that they are not being honest. They do reversals on many women who are trying to get pregnant, but also have PTLS symptoms. Those women often have their symptoms alleviated; Thus, the doctors claim they work with PTLS. The reality of it, I found, is that none of them have even read about PTLS, let alone studied it at all. Furthermore, most do not believe in PTLS, but many will tell you they do just to get you as a patient. I spent seven months researching and talking with doctor offices across the country and was quite disconcerted.
After endless research and extreme frustration with doctors all over the U.S., I decided on a doctor to get my tubal reversal done. The hospital was by far the nicest and the most understanding and knowledgeable about my health concerns associated with PTLS. It only cost me around $3,000. and that was with a private nurse because I had no one to accompany me, but price was not a factor in my decision. The doctor I chose was much more attentive and caring toward the patient than the 30+ doctors I had contacted.
Many factors entered in to my decision, but for starters, they were extremely informative and could not have made things easier. They don't make you jump through hoops, everything was so simple and pleasant. You choose a surgery date then call the coordinating doctor. Next, email the office and tell them. They send you a request for a small deposit. You book your flight. You call to schedule your arrival at the airport and send a small deposit to be picked up. That's it! You bring your post operative and pathology reports with you and any other medical records you want to show the doctor (you can obtain these by going to the records department of the hospital where your tubal ligation was done and signing a release form). When you get to the hospital, the doctor meets with you to answer any questions. He is very handsome and charismatic, which is a bonus.
It is probably the cleanest and most peaceful hospital I have ever been in, and the staff was wonderful. You don't have to rent a motel room if you are staying only a few days, and my hospital room was so peaceful; It had fantastic Feng Shui (atmosphere). My surgery seemed more like a vacation than a hospital stay. The evening before, I walked down town, a very quiet, friendly little town. I actually miss it and want to go back! So, if you are scared to go, you might talk me into going with you! Anyway, I had my tubal reversal surgery June 28th, 2006 and it was successful. I don't get paid to endorse them, but if you go, feel free to tell them you were referred by "Torrie". And, say hello to the coordinating doctor for me. He is a Saint, answering endless questions and working 'round the clock. You can contact me if you have any questions.
MY TUBAL REVERSAL
June 28th, 2006
I had a tubal ligation done may 2004. I looked at two pages of google about them and all they said was good things, that you may get a headache or something, but that it was an excellent form of birth control. At first, things seemed ok. Then, within a short time, I was missing periods for 4 months, 2 months, 3 months at a time. I did not think too much about it, because I had been taking a small amount of testosterone because I read that women over 40 lose theirs and need a supplement. But, the USA olympic committee banned it and I would need to get it from a doctor in the U.S., never got around to it (i had just always ordered from Europe). But, after I stopped, the periods did not come back normally. I still didn't think too much of it, thought my body had to adjust. But, as time went on, about a year and a half later, I began having hot flashes. Immediately, I knew it was the tubal ligation. I was 40 and had always been very young acting and looking. My mother went through menopause at 50 and my grandma was in her 60s. I went onto the internet and sure enough, post tubal ligation syndrome, a whole host of horrible symptoms that can occur, one of which, is menopause. there are basically two theories, one that blood vessels that route to the ovaries are damaged, the other, that messenger cells residing in the fallopian tubes are destroyed. All I knew was that in getting sterilized (the term even sounds brutal), I was damaged, big-time. I began to notice other changes, like no interest in feminine things; depression; rage; uncontrollable mood swings; no interest in life, basically. I did not even feel human, it was that bad.
You would think that would be the worst part. No, the worst comes when you go to the doctor who did the tubal ligation and he tells you that you need to see a psychiatrist and get on medication for depression, that the tubal ligation had absolutely nothing to do with any of your symptoms. I had him run tests and he said they came back that I was in full menopause. It was at that point that I started to think realistically, that you cannot go into the body and disrupt a normal bodily function given from God, and expect no consequences. So, I hit the internet, searching for others who were ill from this. I hit the motherlode, so to speak. Not only did I find many studies and doctors saying these symptoms occur, but I found 27 pages of testimonials from women who were suffering, and those were only from two web sites! i copied it all and presented it to my doctor. Like a broken record, he said no. But, I left him with the information and he said he would read it. My next visit, he had changed his mind and said he thought my menopause was caused from the tubal ligation. He even said he would do my reversal, that he has done reversals before (didn't make me feel too confident). I now know that he was lying and that it was just a ploy to get me to go to a very expensive fertility doctor whom he has a repore with. The more I looked into it, I got the feeling she was going to tell me there was nothing wrong, that I was just old, and he would be off the hook. I did not follow through. Sure enough, when I called him later to tell him to start the paperwork for my reversal. I wanted it to be on record and make a claim to my insurance company. He had already offered to do this months before, but didn't, and became angry. He said, if you were in menopause, your FHS levels would show that!" i said, "They do." He said to let him look. He came back and said, yeah, that it was menopause. He quickly said that he could do a reversal, but he does not think one would help me. I know it was his way of getting out of it, and that even if I paid him cash, he wouldn't do it. I found this to be the norm of the U.S. doctors, as I went on to try to find a doctor who would help me.
I contacted tubal reversal doctors all over the country. I found many who claimed to know about PTLS. I came to know this as a front to get women in. They don't really know about it and many do not even believe in it, just that after reversal many women say their PTLS symptoms are gone. It is a bonus for these doctors and becomes a selling point. I must have contacted 25 or more offices. Most of these doctors are affliated with fertility clinics and will not do a reversal if you do not want a baby or cannot have one because they say your FSH levels are too high. Many of my friends and family said to just tell them you want a baby. It doesn't work that way. They look at your blood tests and tell you that you cannot have one. End of story. So, I tried to find one who would do the reversal anyway based on getting rid of post tubal ligation syndrome symptoms. Many office people gave me hope, but as soon as the doctors found out my FSH level, stating I was in menopause, no dice, they wouldn't touch me. All these doctors cost around $6,000 to $10,000, and no matter whay money you pay them, they still won't put your tubes back together. They tell you to take estrogen and progesterone instead and just live with the fact you are at that age.
So, at 40, I felt my life was over. I hated everything and everyone, it seemed, just wanted to lay in bed all day with the curtains closed and avoid men and humans. I was taking lots of estrogen and progesterone like the dr had prescribed, but the hot flashes, body heat, and other symptoms prevailed. I could not take enough to curtail them and it was very expensive. Insurance only pays for estrogens that are made from horse urine. If you recall, all the talk about cancer caused from hormone replacement was because they choose to use horse urine instead of human. If you use bioidentical hormones, you don't increase your cancer chances. But, of course, insurance would rather you go ahead and get the cancer. Well, that's the logic of it. Furthermore, the pharmacists who do these "compounding" formulas, do not include Estriol, which is one of the three estrogen hormones needed. There is now a ground swell of opinion that believes that Estriol has anti-cancer properties, in essence it cancels out the carcinogenic properties of the other two estrogens. So, the U.S. is all set up to give you cancer from the hormone replacement concoctions, regardless if you get horse urine or synthetic human hormones.
I finally found one doctor who said he would do the surgery regardless of wanting a baby. But, as soon as I paid the $6,200, he cancelled my appointment and returned the money. He said he didn't like the fact I sent him too many emails and he did not like my FHS levels (which he had known about for many months). So, I wasted many months trying to save for him, Dr. Levin of Kentucky, and he was totally scamming me, thinking I would never come up with the money or find someone else. He wasted a lot of time and caused me many months of needless symptoms and horrible depression. I would not send my dog to him. He does not care at all about me. In fact, I have an email from him putting down the doctor who did my reversal, telling me not to go to them. Later, when he cancelled me, he told me to go to that same doctor because he would do the operation when he and others would not because of my age and not wanting to have the operation to get pregnant. Levin only cares about producing babies. He said it in an uncaring evil voice, so I know he was trying to tell me to go to a doctor who will not help me at all (in his opinion). Levin told another gal that he is only one of 4 doctors in the U.S. who does the reversal right.
Anyway, for 7 months, I tried to find a doctor to reverse my tubal. I only found one doctor willing to do it. I spoke to the coordinating doctor and he totally understood what I was going through. He believed the reversal would help me and gave me other helpful advice, too. I had been told for 7 months by many reversal doctors all over the U.S. that reversal was a waste of time and I would not be helped. I was spiraling downhill and had no other choice than to start with it. I wanted my body back to the way it was before my doctor got a hold of me. The scheduling was easy. They are not demanding and they tell you very simply the few things you need to do for surgery. See, the way I figure it, the more expensive doctors want to think for you and they want to charge you for doing that. With this doctor. you can think for yourself and take some responsibility in your own healthcare. The hospital was very nice with great feng shui. And, I rarely ever poked my head into the hallway without seeing a janitorial person. There was no charge to stay in the hospital. I was there 4 nights. They brought 3 meals a day, best food I ever ate. I hired a private nurse and she took excellent care of me, as did the other nurses on duty. I just can't say enough good about the hospital and the doctors and staff. I an going to recommend it to anyone who wants reversal. While I was there, I met a couple from Los Angeles and they were very happy as well. Later, I sent a gal from San Diego and she checked back with me a month later to say she was very happy and doing well.
Some advice, take your own pillow; Theirs are flat and hurt my neck. They leave the epidural (you can have that or general anesthesia) in over night for pain. So, your leg is numb all night. I freaked and started crying, thought I lost my leg. They don't tell you, or they didn't me. But, the staff calmed me and told me. Overall, it was an excellent experience and I would do it again. The Doctor told I could get pregnant if I wanted to. I don't know, because I never tried, but I am sure he is right. As soon as I had my first discussion with him at the hospital, he took me off the estrogen and progeterone my doctor had prescribed. I told him they were not working anyway and I kept taking more and more. He said if I took hormones, my body would rely on them and not produce it's own. I have heard it takes time after reversal for the body to heal and regulate itself.